Rock and Roll Geek Indie Cast -Thanksgiving

9 thoughts on “Rock and Roll Geek Indie Cast -Thanksgiving”

1. Great show, as always..
   but that earthlink ad was terribly uncool mate, too long and not very rocknroll – you know what I mean!

2. I know the ad sucked but that is what they wanted to air and they are paying the bandwidth bills. I apologize.

3. hey, Michael… don’t apologize, either play the fucking ads and go with it full tilt or go back to being independent.
   ha, money changes everything, don’t it?

   still luv ya, man,
   but to be straight up, not diggin’ the commercialism at all, meself, either.

   erhmmm, sorry to be a bummer, man. i apologize.

4. Hey Donna….don’t apologize, either hate the show or go full tilt, etc. 🙂

   The ads only go for 30 seconds and that is the only thing about the show that has changed. You can always fast forward through them.

5. 😉 hee, you’re right, Michael. i am a bit regretful about my outburst…
   i just get confused and, i guess, annoyed (it’s really more of a feeling of disappointment) that some of the oldest and pioneering podcasts have come to be modelled after mainstream commericial radio complete with sweepers, obnoxious ads, promos and DJ-like presentations. this is soooo antithesis to what podcasting is about, isn’t it? i just don’t get it.
   i still really dig Michael Butler and the rock and roll geek that he is, but i miss the good ol’ RnRGS and the freshness and down-right honesty it exuded.
   btw, i do fast-forward through the crappy ads when i hear them begin to assault my senses…. never fast-forwarded through your shows before, but i do now.

   thought occurs to me – could you save all the commercial stuff for your Indie cast (and put it on it’s own feed separate from RnRGS) and keep all the good ol’ grassroots stuff for RnRGS? with the Indiecast you would have that huge anonymous fanbase out there in maintream-commercial-radioland and with RnRGS still have the small, but adoring loyal fanbase that pure podcasting brings. would you be able to separate the two and make stuck-in-the-past fans like me happy and still meet your obligations to your employer?

   peace out

   🙂

6. Am I sounding like a DJ? or not being honest?
   I’ll have to check myself on that. Other than running that prerecorded ad, I didn’t think I was doing anything different. The advertisers specifically requested my show to play their ads on and, while I don’t like the prerecorded crap they sound like, I do appreciate them wanting to pay me for running them.
   I have had sponsors from the beginning, though. Do they really assault your senses if it is only a 30 second spot? What if I tried making my own 30 second ad? Maybe it wouldn’t be so lame? I’ll ask about that.

   BTW, there are some podcasters who call themselves independent who do a good 5 minutes of business before even getting into the content.

   Donna, it is important to me to have you as a faithful listener so I take everything you say to heart.

7. Michael, you don’t sound like a DJ. but, to me, it does seems that you are doing more and more promotions because you are obligated to do them and that’s where your podcast show has lost some of the honest, down-to-earth, rocker-on-the-street vibe. i get the sense that you really don’t like nor want to do the advertising, but that’s what comes with belonging to that organization for whom you now work.
   i’m not even clear about all this in my own head… i certainly want you to succeed at what you enjoy doing and want you to make $$$ to support your family and have a great life, but somehow all the commercialization and promoting of your employers’ biz projects contradicts the cool, aloof, running-against-the-wind, stick-it-to-the-man, softly-cynical and out-spoken RockandRoll Geek of the past.
   i dunno what the answer is, Michael, but maybe if you did create your own ads [like you got time, eh?] for your sponsors that better fitted YOUR format (not PodShow’s) it would come off as more sincere. remember that video you did for that speaker thingy that looked like a goofy mechanical dog… lol, i couldn’t stop watching because i was wondering why the hell you were doing the ad cos it didn’t look like you wanted to be doing it. that ad caught my attention… i didn’t fast-forward through that one so i guess it worked. (hehee, even if i don’t remember the name of the speaker thingy, but then i’m a hardcase when it comes to advertising :p)
   i know that i’ve taken to bitching a lot and giving you a hard time, but please know that it’s because i care. believe it or not. i still listen to your shows and enjoy your online/on air presence a lot. you’ve always had great ideas and innovations and this is why you have success… i just have a difficult time letting go of the fact that you now have the responsibilities and obligations that come with such, too.

   anyway, looking forward to hearing more of your famous interviews/rock talk and more good music.

   oh, and, if i get any brilliant flashes of creative ideas for advertisements i’ll send them to you (instead of expending energy bitching & complaining 😀 )

   cheers

8. As to the Earthlink add, it sounded as if they wanted me to join a cult, religion or a political party. I don’t think they know there listeners very well. Good show as always.

   Lloyd

   Geeks Rule

9. As to the Earthlink add, it sounded as if they wanted me to join a cult, religion or a political party. I don’t think they know there listeners very well. Good show as always.

   Lloyd

   Geeks Rule